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Klacht ingediend tegen Ali Sina.

Bericht door Ariel »

A Formal Complaint Against FFI

Er is een officiele klacht tegen Ali Sina ingediend door een zekere Mr. Zameer Ahmed Jumlana, Secretary of All India Committee, Indian National League, naar de commissaris van de Delhi Police, India.
To the desk of Y. S. Dadwal, Commissioner of Delhi Police, INDIA.

CC. faithreedom International

My attention is being drawn about Anti-Islamic provocative website http://www.faithfreedom.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; . I personally check the website which contains the Alleged Pictures of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be upon Him) which are forbidden according to teachings of Islam. The Life History of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be upon Him) is also described at the said website in a much distorted manner. What is more objectionable is that Anti-Islamic propaganda is done by imposing them as ardent Muslim.

I am optimistic that a swift legal action will be taken against the above identified website.

Zameer Ahmed Jumlana
(Secretary All India Committee, Indian National League)
Mobile: 9811531096
En dit is het antwoord van Ali Sina
Dear Mr. Zameer Ahmed Jumlana,

Showing the pictures of Muhammad is forbidden by the teachings of Islam. However, we are not Muslims and we do not abide by the teachings of Islam. Isn’t it absurd that you expect everyone to live by your dictums?

Muslims are in violation of the laws that are the hallmark of the civilized people, such as the Golden Rule, the Human Rights, the equality of genders, the freedom of speech, the freedom of belief, etc. These are the laws that matter to us. They don’t matter to you, because they are not part of your laws.

Just as you file a complaint against us for violating your laws, we are taking you to court for violating our laws.

Which court? The court of the public opinion! It is in this court that we are exposing the deception, the violence, and the hate that is so intrinsic in the religion that you espouse. We are fighting the lies of Islam with truth and winning the minds and hearts of thousands of people, both Muslims and non-Muslims.

Can you defend Islam? Can you prove that what we allege against your faith and its monstrous prophet are untrue? No you cannot. When it comes to logic you are helpless. You cannot defend your evil belief with logic. There is nothing you can do, but to bring legal charges to stop us from revealing the truth about your cherished faith.

You can’t. There is no law that can stop us from telling the truth about any faith, at least not where I live. Here we practice freedom of speech and criticizing religions, including Islam is our birth right.

This is the freedom that you Muslims have always enjoyed, but have denied to others. You think it is okay to destroy churches, synagogues, temples and the houses of worships of other faiths, trash their religions and criticize them. You think it is okay for your prophet to call the Jews, maghdhoob (hated by God), the Christians, gone astray and the Hindus, polytheists and najes (filthy), but you cry like a baby when someone criticizes your faith.

Seven innocent Baha’is in Iran are being prosecuted, as I write these notes. They may face execution, because they are accused of “waging war against God and spreading corruption on Earth.” The punishment for these offences in Islam is death. You are not offended by this gross violation of human rights, but you are offended if we show the pictures of Muhammad?

Have you ever thought why Muhammad disallowed his followers to depict him? In his later years, Muhammad suffered from the degenerative disease of achromegaly. Thanks to this disease his bones and cartilages grew disproportionately. His facial features were deformed. He looked like a monster. But Muhammad was also a narcissist and he was very concerned about his image. Consequently, he forbade his followers to depict him. He did not want the posterity to see how ugly he looked. If you want to really know how Muhammad looked, please read my book, Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet. I have unearthed his description, narrated by his nearest and dearest.

You went on to accuse us of “imposing” anti-Islamic propaganda on ardent Muslims.

Really? Have we ever called for jihad against ardent Muslims? Have we said anywhere that Muslims should recant their faith, pay jizyah, or they should be killed? Where is this imposition you are talking about? You fail to see that Muhammad imposed his diabolic faith on others thorugh his numerour ghazwas (raids), that your ancestors and mine were massacred, raped and forced into conversion, but you see an Internet site as an imposition? If a Muslim does not want to read our site, all he has to do is click out of it. Can a Muslim who does not want to remain a Muslim click out of his faith? What will happen to him if he does? Can non-Muslims living in Islamic countries prctice their faith freely? Have you read about the recent violence against the Copts in Egypet? Have you heard of innocent Muslims in Pakistan accused of blasphemy ane lynched by Muslim goons?

Your ancestors, like mine, were buchered and raped by marauding Muslims, and now you are defending the barbaric faith of their abusers? You and I don't owe any alligiance to the demnic faith of the murderers of our ancestors. Wake up Mr. Jumlana. Don't betray your own people, your own ancestors, your own culture. Have you become the defender of a cult that destroyed them? Instead of defending the filthy cult of a monster you should defend your own cultuer. You are a Hindu, Be proud of your heritage that has contributed to humanity so much.

It is amazing how Muslims can be so genuinely hypocritical. You accuse us of something that befits Islam. FFI does not have means of torture to impose anything. Any time a Muslim can’t handle us, relief is a click away. But they are coming. They are reading what we write and they are leaving Islam. We do not impose our views, but the truth is compelling.

Well, Mr. Zameer Ahmed Jumlana. Unlike Muslims I am a fair person and would like to give you the opportunity to defend your faith. Show us that Islam is a religion from God and not an idiotic faith concocted by a mentally and physically sick individual. Prove us wrong and I will not only publish your rebuttal, but also announce publicly that I was wrong and even will give you $50,000 dollars as reward.

That is not all. I am going to do something that is inconceivable for Muslims and may even shock the non-Muslims. We have a blog section in this site. I am going to let Muslims to run their blogs. Yes that is right! From today, I announce that the blog section of FFI is open to all those who want to prove us wrong. We are working on a new application for this site that will be easier to use. It will be launched in about a week. I am going to create a new chapter in the blogs section for Muslims to respond to all the charges made against Muhammad and Islam.

How about that for freedom of speech? Of course Muslims have been always free to post anything in the forum and in the comments section of faithfreedom.org, but now they can also write blogs refuting FFI right on FFI. Show me one Islamic site that allows opposing comments, let alone giving their critics blogs to refute them.

So, Dear Mr. Jumlana, instead of crying like a baby and complaining to authorities, please act maturely and start refuting what you believe are “distortions” in our site.

This offer is open to all Muslims. Muslims can now have their own blogs to refute us on FFI. I have a hunch that their blogs will be very popular, provided they write scholarly articles. But be also prepared to be debunked and refuted. You are free to write anything and you readers are free to comment and show your errors.

There are some conditions.

1- You must not use copy pasted articles from other writers. What you publish on FFI must be your own writing.

2- Your articles must be in response to the charges made against Muhammad. The intent is to prove FFI is wrong and Islam is indeed a true religion.

Are you up to the challenge? If we are distorting the facts, as you accuse us, it should be easy for you to prove us wrong. The antidote to lies is truth. Show us the truth and debunk everything we say, in konta men al sadeqeen.

By searching your name in Google, I see you are a professional complainer to authorities and an avid lawsuit maker. But I did not find any scholarly article penned by you about Islam. I hope you will be able to defend your faith logically now that you have exposed yourself to all and sundry. Don’t try to bully the critics of Islam to silence, it won’t work anymore. Instead try to refute them wrong, if you can.

Wish you the best

Ali Sina
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Re: Klacht ingediend tegen Ali Sina.

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Wie in de Islam zijn hersens gebruikt, zal zijn hoofd moeten missen.
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Re: Klacht ingediend tegen Ali Sina.

Bericht door Bernie »

Zo Ali Sina, dat is mooi verwoord....

Ik ben benieuwd of het storm gaat lopen op die blogs. Ik denk dat het erg stil blijft als kopieren niet is toegestaan.

Het valt me op dat moslims uitstekend zijn in knip- en plakwerk, zelf het domste gerucht ("Willem van oranje was eigenlijk moslim" ) wordt onmiddelijk blind verspreid. Zelf redeneren en iets schrijven is een stuk lastiger.
Maar wie weet...
The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said, "This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."
Bukhari Volume 3, Book 48, Number 826
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Bericht door katootje »

Wat een goede tegenreactie en voorstel van dhr. Ali Sina.

Ik hoop dat Mr. Jumlana, de beroepsklagerT voor Allah, de handschoen opneemt. /contradictie in terminus.
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Re: Klacht ingediend tegen Ali Sina.

Bericht door Ariel »

Rebuttal by Zameer Ahmed Jumlana
Dear Mr. Ali Sina,

I have just checked your reply to my e-mail to Commissioner of Police, Delhi regarding your website.

I had sent this complaint to police as an Indian National not as a muslim only. Noted Painter M.F. Hussain is living in exile due to his condemnable naked paintings of Hindu God & Goddesses. And criminal cases are pending against him all over India for hurting the sentiments of Hindu Community.

Before making a Para wise reply to your email there are a few questions which comes out in my mind instantaneously while going through your email.

Whether girl child were buried alive in Arabs during pre-Prophet era or not?
Do the women have any right in property in pre-Prophet era?
Who destroyed the Mosques in Spain, Russia & China?
Who is responsible for Tianamin Square Massacre in China?
Do the Israeli and Mynmar governments are not violating human rights?

All I want to say that it is the so called followers of each and every faith and religion had committed atrocities and human right violations against the preaching of their respective religions. Do their religions (code of conduct) can be blamed for their sinful acts?

Dear Mr. Sina,

Anybody can practice any faith but I dissent with you that one have any right to abuse/distort the preaching’s of any religion/ex-religion. I have sincere intention to convince you and your website visitors to bring them back in the fold of Islam.


Zameer Ahmed Jumlana

Dear Mr. Zameer Ahmed Jumlana,

Thank you for your reply. It was a pleasant surprise to hear from you. Generally, I don’t hear back from Muslims. They throw a stone and run. So let me commend your integrity.

As for respecting other people’s belief, please understand that it is a fallacy. Beliefs don’t have to be respected. No belief is sacrosanct, above criticism or even ridicule. This is the only way we humans advance our understanding. All beliefs, whether scientific, religious or philosophical must be open to probing and criticism. If a belief demands respect and cannot tolerate criticism that belief has to be criticized vehemently.

Prosecuting or threatening an artist for disrespecting someone’s belief is sickening. However, let us be fair. Hindus were not originally violent and intolerant. Generally speaking they still are the most tolerant people. If you see a group of Hindus are becoming radicalized it is because they are reacting to Islamic aggression. The violence and the intolerance that you see in some Hindus is not part of their religious teaching, it is their reaction to Islamic violence. In a sense, they are inspired by the violence of Islam. You can call them "Muslim Hindus" or "Islamized Hindus."

In his book Holy Warriors: Islam and the Demise of Classical Civilization John O’Neill argues that much of Christian violence, such as Crusades and inquisition were the influences of Islam on the Church. Many of the secret societies, like the Shriners, The Rosicrucians, the Freemasons, the illuminati and even the Mafia owe their organizational structure to Ismail sect of Islam and its order of Assassins. Also communism is inspired by Islam. The concept of a world government under one dictator that is the core of Marxism is an adaptation of caliphate. Nazism also owes its world view to Islam. Muhammad told his followers that they are superior because of their faith. Hitler advocated the superiority of a race. On several occations Hitler expressed his admiration for Muhammad.

Thoughts are viral. We humans influence each other’s thinking. Ideas pass from one person to another. They mutate in their new habitat and adapt to the circumstances.

In his book The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History Michael H. Hart ranks Muhammad at the top of all the people who influenced the world. I do not dispute that claim. However, I also recognize that that influence has been the cause of much evil on Earth. Hundreds of millions of deaths, directly or indirectly, are owed to the influence of Muhammad on the world. When Christians say the world is ruled by the Prince of Darkness, there is a symbolic truth in it. Can you think of the most evil things in the history of mankind? Fascism, Communism, Nazism, the crusades, the inquisition, the organized crime, and the secret societies were all, in one way or other, byproducts of Islam.

So it is shortsighted to blame Hinduism for denying freedom of speech and expression to a Muslim painter in India. This intolerance is not inspired by Hinduism. What you see is the reflection of the intolerance of Islam. It is ironic that despite their claim of hating Islam, Hindu extremists are influenced by Muhammad’s evil spirit and are indeed Muslims. It is not their belief that makes them Islamists, but their conducts.

Now let me answer your questions

Whether girl child were buried alive in Arabs during pre-Prophet era or not?

Female infanticide is the intentional killing of infant girls. In addition to the active methods undertaken to eliminate baby girls soon after birth, neglect and discrimination leading to death and sex-selective abortion are also means by which many female children die each year. These phenomena are most prevalent in patriarchal societies in which the status of women is low and a preference for sons is built into the cultural ideology.

Female infaniticide cuts across all social and economic boundaries. Thus, the practice involves a wide range of location-specific and culturally-motivated causes. In rural and poverty-stricken areas, lack of education, economic resources, and access to healthcare are factors that lead to the murder of infant girls. In urban areas, selective abortion is commonly employed by individuals with access to modern medical technology that allows for early detection of sex.

This practice is not condoned or tolerated by any government. There are punitive measures to discourage female infanticide. India and China, two of the most populous countries today, top the list of nations in which these atrocities are carried out. However you cannot say that this evil practice is wide spread in either one of these countries.

Arabia was and still is a patriarchal society. But it does not mean everyone practiced female infanticide. Had this been the case no woman would have been left. The fact that some men could afford to have several women shows the claim that infanticide was a widespread practice prior to Islam is a gross exaggeration.

The truth is that humans instinctively love babies, and more so their own. What Muhammad said was commonsense. Saying something as banal as this does not make one a prophet. Ask any criminal whether infanticide is good and he will tell you that it is abhorrent. Muhammad committed crimes that many criminal will not commit, such as raiding people’s homes at night, butchering unarmed men and raping their wives and daughters. Don’t judge a man by his words but by his deeds. Muhammad preached a lot of good things that are commonsense but his actions were demonic. He often violated his own preaching.

2 Did women have any right in property in pre-Prophet era?

Of course they did? Wasn’t Khadijah a successful merchant and the wealthiest woman of Mecca prior to marrying Muhammad? As a single woman she ran a business and hired men to work for her. Muslims are so immersed in lies that they can’t see the obvious.

Arab women lost their human rights after Islam. At the time of Muhammad there was a woman prophetess called Sijjah. She had many followers. This is inconceivable for Muslims whose prophet told them women are deficient in intelligence and because of menstruation they are filthy. Salma was a young woman who lead an army against Khalid ibn Walid and was defeated thanks to the coward unchivalry of that villain general of Islam. Aisha also led an army against Ali. Early believers followed a woman to war. Today Muslim women in Saudi Arabia don't have the right to drive a car.

Eventually, as the influence of Islam spread, and words of Muhammad such as “no Nation will prosper under a woman’s leadership” were accepted as true, women lost their status and today, they are called awrat (pudendum). They have to be covered from head to toe because every sqyare inch of their body is private part - an en extension of their vagina. Isn’t hijab the biggest insult to women? Muslim women are not regarded as humans but as waking talking vaginas. That is what awrat means and that is why they must be covered. Don’t let anyone fool you. Hijab has nothing to do with modesty. It is devised to cover women because they are perceived as awrat - objects of shame.

In Islam women are the property of men. The Quran gives men permission to beat them and Muslim societies condone and even encourage “honor” killing them. Women are killed for Muslim men to restore their honor.

3 Who destroyed the Mosques in Spain, Russia & China?

As I said before, people of all faiths are reacting to Islamic violence and are retaliating. The destruction of Babri Mosque, for example, was in effect a reaction of Hindus to Islamic expansionism. They destroyed the mosque because it was built on the site where the temple of Ayodhaya that commemorated Rama’s birthplace had ones stood. That temple was destroyed by the Muslim governor Mir Baqi in 1527.

Everywhere you see a mosque is destroyed you can find a trail of blood that leads to Islamic violence and jihad. The Serbian war against the Kosovo and Bosnia was a reaction to centuries of abuse by Muslims. There is a tower made of human sculls built by Muslim invaders of Serbia. Finally the Serbs snapped. That is not to condone what they did, but to explain where this hatred originated.

Let us be fair and look beyond the events and into their root causes. The root cause of most evil perpetrated in the world can be traced to Islam. Most of the problems affecting mankind were caused by that Prince of Darkness born in the seventh century Arabia.

Today, Chinese are reacting to Muslims. On the surface this looks like another case of human rights abuses that the Chinese government is known for. But beneath that lies a history that needs to be taken into consideration. Arab, Persian and Uyghur Muslims came to China as merchants and were received well. But being Muslims they did not mix with the Hans, the proper Chinese. When the Mongols invaded China, Muslims cooperated with them to keep the Hans in the second class status in their own country. The Mongols, whose own ideology of domination through violence matched that of Muhammad, brought many Muslim immigrants to China and employed them as administrators to control the Hans.

Today, Muslims in China demand autonomy and sessetion. But as far as Chinese are concerned these people are immigrants and invaders. It is normal for the Chinese to be defensive and protective or their country.

There are many parts of Europe that are no-go zones for non-Muslims. Muslim immigrants have taken these quarters and not even police is allowed to go there. The Europeans have become euphemized and are incapable to defend their countries, but Chinese are still patriotic. Hence, the harsh reaction.

4 Who is responsible for Tianamin Square Massacre in China

Tiananmen Square massacre was perpetrated by the Chinese communist regime. Communism, like Islam, is a plague that has to be eradicated. As I argued above, all these plagues have their roots or their inspirations in Islamic ethos of world domination. Every ideology of domination, that divides mankind into us versus them that instills in its followers the hatred of the outsider, that aspires to dominate the world dictatorially, has its ideological root in Islam. Most evil in the world is inspired, directly or indirectly, by the monster of Arabia.

I see all these as symptoms. The disease is the ideology of Islam. I am not interested in symptoms. My goal is to eradicate the disease. Once Islam and Islamic way of thinking, the thinking that divides mankind into us versus them that rouses the insiders against the outsiders that is founded on hate and on disunity is eradicated, these symptoms will also disappear.

I want to see a world where no one is seen as them, where all mankind is seen as us, members of one human family, cells of one body. This is possible, but to get to this noble goal we have to get rid of ideologies that divide us. Islam is the inspiration behind all ideologies of hate. That is why I am after Islam.

5 Do the Israeli and Mynmar governments are not violating human rights?

Mynmar government is dictatorship. I don’t know of any dictatorship that does not violate human rights. But Israel is a democracy. Israel does not violate human rights. She is however, under severe negative propaganda attack by Muslims and their liberal helpers. Israel is vilified and demonized with calumny and libel out of political expediency. An Arab proverb says, things are known by their nemesis. Look who are the nemesis of Israel: Ahmadinejad and his murderous regime, the terrorists of all persuasions, the Hamas, the Hizbollah, the al Qaida, and virtually all Muslims that believe in the Prince of Darkness, the Nazis, the KKK, the while supremacists, the black supremacists and the hard core communists. These folks are not good people. I am not a moral relativist. I do not believe all cultures are the same. There are cultures and beliefs that are evil and those who believe in them do evil things.

If you pay close attention, you can see the world is divided in two camps: On the left there are those who believe in evil ideologies of hate and have separated themselves from the rest and on the right there are those who believe all men are equal. The former groups believe good and bad people can be differentiated by their adherence to certain race, belief or doctrine, While the latter group believe good and evil are determined by the content of one’s character and one's deeds.

It happens that all the enemies of Israel belong to the former group, the dividers of mankind and the hate mongers. I prefer to be part of the latter group. That is why I am with Israel and a Zionist. I use this term deliberately because Muslims don’t know what it means. They are brainwashed to believe Zionist is something evil. Zionist is one who believes Jews have the right to have a country of their own. I believe in that.

I invite you to see two short videos. One is about Israel being the first country to get to disaster areas of the world helping the victims irrespective of their belief or race and the other is how Israel has become the victim of vicious lies motivated by appeasement of Muslims and political correctness.

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http://www.pjtv.com/v/2978" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

At no time the demarcation between good and evil was clearer than now. Those who follow evil doctrines, have divided the world, promote lies and foment hate, are all enemeis of Israel. This countyr must do something right to arouse the wrath of all hate mongers and evil doers. Our mission in FFI is to stop them, to make them see their folly and to bring them back to the fold of humanity. I invite you also to join us.

If any religion advocates hate and violence that religion has to be condemned. It is a mistake to grant immunity to any doctrine of hate just because it brands itself as religion. Assuming God exists and sends messages, His messages must be messages of love and unity. It can't be another way. If anyone foments discord that person is not from God, but an impostor or worse an envoy of Satan that has come to bring sedition war and destruction to mankind.

If a religion preaches love and its followers wage war, that religion is not to be blamed, but if a religion glorifies fighting and prescribes it as the most lofthy act of worship and the fastest way to heaven that religion is to be blamed. Islam is evil because of what Muhammad said and did. I cannot say the same about any other religion.

Anyone must have the right to abuse and to distort any belief. What you perceive as distortion and abuse is honest understanding of someone else.

The demand that no one should distort and abuse any belief is the source of all evil. We all have different understanding of reality. Our beliefs are shaped by our upbringing, external influences and our mental capacity. Everyone is convinced of their belief. What you believe is most certainly contrary to someone else’s belief. Your understanding of an object or a subject may be very different from mine. That is because we see the same thing from different perspectives. It is fine that we should not agree with each other, but if I accuse you of distorting the truth and you accuse me of the same, if I demand that you should shut up and you do the same, the only way left for us to resolve this impasse is to go in war.

Do you see how we have fooled ourselves with a lie and condemned ourselves to perpetual war? The idea that belief should not be criticized is lunacy. Millions have perished because of this stupid idea while fighting to defend faiths that could not be defended logically.

Who are you to tell me that I should not distort your belief? Who said your belief is not distorted and mine is? From where I stand it is you who have distorted beliefs. Do I have the right to tell you to shut up? This is the most ludicrous dogma that humands have invented. We may also owe that to Muhammad. Beliefs don’t need protection of the law. They can and they should be criticized. If they are true they can withstand every criticism and distortions. It is lies that requjire protection. When you wrote to authorities asking them to stop me, unknowlingly you wittnessed to the fallacy of Islam. Now that you are engaging in debate you are demonstrating your conviction that Islam is true. Truth can spark when differing ideas collide.

Beliefs don’t have rights. Humans have rights. Part of that right is to criticize any belief. Muslims do that all the time. Don’t you criticize trinity? Don’t you believe that Jesus was not crucified? These beliefs are contrary to Christianity. They offend the true believers. But it does not stop you. And it shouldn’t. You should be free to express your beliefs even if Christians are offended. What you are not allowed to do is to burn churches, destroy synagogues and temples. Why Muslims do this? It is because Muhammad did it. Muhammad rammed into Ka’ba and destroyed that temple. So Muslims follow the evil example set by their prophet. Then you complain when sometimes other retaliate. You only see the retaliation part. What you fail to see is that all this started with Muhammad. It is the influence of that demonic soul that is causing so much mayhem in the world.

We must be free to say what we believe. Of course we cannot agree on everything. Of course both of us are convinced that the other guy does not understand the truth and is distorting it. That is fine. If truth is on our side we should not be afraid of criticism. .

Can Islam stand criticism? It can’t. That proves that it is a lie. But you disagree with me. You say I am distorting the facts. In that case please show us that distortion. Once you prove I am mistaken, I will join the fold of Islam, but so far no one has been able to do it.

Ali Sina
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Re: Klacht ingediend tegen Ali Sina.

Bericht door Ariel »

A Formal Complaint Against FFI Part III
Dear Ali Sina

I am in receipt of your E-mail in response to my instantaneous rebuttal against your Anti Islamic propaganda.

Of course you are a person of immense knowledge with a talented ability to frame heroes as villains or vice versa.

As per your Web-site you are an Ex – Muslim. Do you not find any faith/Religion worthy enough to be practiced and propagated by you?

The impression I got is that you still believe that Islam is the true Religion/faith and it is Islam Vs. None. That prompted you to propagate Anti Islamic and Anti Muslim views.

In last let me concede that I m an idiot learner. Even in my childhood days I learned through the stick not by the teacher. So, I will continue to enlighten my self about Islam through your Anti Islamic Website

Zameer Ahemd Jumlana

Dear Mr. Jumlana,

Thank you for your response. Let me correct you right off the bat that I am not a person of immense knowledge. I have an insight into the mind of Muhammad and that is what I am sharing. It resonates with my readers because it is based on facts. My knowledge is far less than most Islamic scholars who have memorized the Quran since childhood and have spent years in the madrassa reading the hadith, all the tafseers and the fiqh. I had never read the Quran since I was way into my adult life. The difference is that I read it with an inquisitive mind and they read it as believers. Therefore, I saw things that they overlook.

No one can frame a hero as a villain or vice versa. You can only deceive people who want to be deceived. Dr, Zakir Naik is an expert in deception. He has the ability to make Muslims believe that the most asinine verses of the Quran are miracles. However, he cannot fool non-Muslims. In my online book, The World’s Greatest Showman, dedicated to him I have shown that virtually every statement Dr. Naik makes is a lie. Deception is only self deception.

The reason my writings are read is because I am fair. I can be wrong, but I never deliberately try to deceive my readers. I refrain from making claims that I cannot prove. I present facts as facts and questions as questions and when in doubt I say so.

As for religions I really don’t have any preference. I am an atheist humanist but I don’t think atheism makes people any better or is the solution to world problems.

I am not a believer because I do not see any evidence of the existence of God. By “God” I mean the god of religions. The creation can be easily explained with evolution and I see no evidence of a hearing, seeing caring God. I believe in a principle that underlies the universe.

Over 200,000 innocent people lost their lives in Haiti and the most vulnerable people on Earth are often hit by similar calamities. Where is God?

Does God see our suffering and does not care? Does he see it, wants to help but he can’t? Or maybe, he does not know what is happening. Therefore, he is callous, impotent or ignorant. Such God does not deserve our worship.

Suffering does not end with human misery. It is woven into the fabric of the universe. Why should any loving God design the world in such a way that the sustenance of some creatures must necessity depend on the destruction of the lives of many others? The most cynical part is that these creatures that are destined to be food are endowed with senses and feelings. They suffer excruciating pains before becoming snacks and those who survive them suffer untold sorrow. When a deer loses her calf, her anguish is no less than the anguish we humans feel for the loss of our children. If truly this universe is designed by a god, he must be utterly cruel.

Jews and Christians reason that the suffering in the world is the result of Adam and Eve’s disobedience. This belief is rehashed in the Quran also. By doing so they are in effect acknowledging that God is unjust. How can a just and loving god, punish thousands of generations and millions of species in land and sea because one couple ate an apple without permission? Is this punishment commensurate with the offence? Is it fair that entire world suffer because one guy stole an apple? And we are supposed to believe that such god is wise, just and merciful?

Because our foolish progenitors could not control their stomach, God kicked them out of paradise, unleashed Satan to prey on their descendants and made all creatures devour each other. And we are supposed to, day and night worship this insane god and praise his justice, mercy and compassion.

Why do we humans want to fool ourselves? Well, it is because we need to believe. A couple of months ago my sister found out that her daughter had a tumor in her brain that required the most dangerous surgery. Her life was shattered. The Doctors told her to be ready for the worse or the possibility of blindness. She called me and said, please pray. I said, you know I don’t believe in prayers. She said that she needs to believe.

I was devastated by the news. I wanted to be helpful. If I could give my life to save my niece’s I would have done it with no hesitation. But I felt helpless. It was then that I saw that believers are blessed. They can cling to a god and keep their hope alive. I wish I could believe too, but I can’t.

If you can believe in God, you should. Believers are happier in general. It is comforting to believe someone listens to your prayers, takes care of you and will not abandon you in the dark moments of your life. The belief in God is placebo. Sometimes placebos save life. Placebo works as long as you don’t know the truth about it. Alas, I know the truth about God.

However, despite being an atheist I often preach God to those whom I believe will benefit from it. I live in a Christian country so I preach Christianity. I used to go to a Church. Some churches are really good. Unlike mosque that is saturated with anger and hate there is often happiness and friendship in the air. There is nothing wrong in believing in God as a helping hand and as long as that beleif brings out the best of you.

But be wary of the downside of belief too. A few days ago, famous American televangelist Pat Robertson said the deadly Haitian earthquake that killed over 200,000 people was God's vengeance for a "pact" Haitians swore to the Devil to set them free from slavery over 200 years ago. Since then, he said, Haiti has been cursed by "one thing after the other."

What is the message in this remark? That God wanted the blacks to remain slaves. They had to enlist the help of Devil to gain their freedom, which angered God who has been hitting those helpless people ever since with one curse after another.

Why would God want to keep the blacks in slavery? Assuming the ancestors of Haitian made a pact with Devil, those guys are dead. Why would a sane God punish their descendants? And more importantly, why should anyone help someone whom God has cursed and wants to punish?

The Quran is full of stories like this. The destruction of Aad by Allah is one such story. Muhammad was not a rational person to realize attributing such thing to God is attributing insanity to the Creator. He was an ignorant man with little intelligence. He believed in every absurdity he heard and parroted it in his own book.

As long as God means hope, it is good. Life without hope is hell. If the love of God makes you a Mother Theresa, there is nothing wrong in it. Whether God exists or not, is secondary. The teachings of Jesus are good. But when the belief in God becomes an excuse to hate, it is evil. Let me explain this with an example.

I generally don’t buy lottery tickets. I know the chance of winning is so low that I rather have a cup of coffee with my two bucks (or toony, as we call it in this part of the world). However, when the jackpot grows larger than 20 million dollars I buy a ticket. The chance of winning has not increased, and I don’t really count on winning. However, this allows me to dream for a few days. I think to myself what would I do with millions of dollars? Maybe I expand fatihfreedom.org, publish literatures in all languages and help Muslims all over the world to leave Islam, maybe I make a movie about Muhammad, and for sure I would take my old parents to a cruise around the world. I buy a ticket, to dream. However, it would be lunacy if I spend my life saving on lottery tickets considering it an investment.

We humans need to dream and have hopes. If the belief in God gives you hope, there is nothing wrong in it. The problem is that some people take that belief too seriously. They wage war in the name of God, discriminate against others, murder people, or just write to police and try to take people’s freedom of speech away from them. Some even blow up their own bodies. They do all these with clear conscience and convinced to be right.

Muslims are told Jihad is the fastest way to heaven. This is lunacy. Muhammad lied. It is this lie that I am trying to expose. But to do that I have to show that he was a liar and his entire message is a lie. It is okay to believe in God, but don’t bet your life on it.

No Sir! I don’t believe Islam is the true religion. I believe all religions have a kernel of truth in then except Islam. There is goodness in every religion, but there is none in Islam. I believe Islam is the most diabolic belief ever invented. It is far more dangerous than Nazism. Islam is evil. It is sheer darkness. It is a curse on humanity.

If I believed in God and his divine comedy I would have said Islam is the instrument of Satan to destroy mankind, but since I am a rationalist, I believe Muhammad was a pathological narcissist. That man was insane. I invite you to read my book and evaluate my evidence. You be the judge.

I promote the truth about Islam because it is a threat to the world. In my previous response to you I showed how Islam was the inspiration behind the evil movements that devastated the world. Today, we are facing a bigger danger. If Nazism, Communism, fascism, inquisition, and Mafia were inspired by Islam, today, it is Islam itself that has raised its ugly head to destroy mankind. Islam is the mother of all evils. All good people of the world, whether they believe in God or not, must unite and slay this beast.

As to your last point, let me assure you that you are not an idiot. Bertrand Russell said, the problem with the world is that the fools are always sure and the wise people are full of doubt. The very fact that you would say such think is proof that you belong to the latter group. I receive plenty of emails from fools and idiots who write to threaten me with the punishment in the grave and hellfire, but have nothing to say in defense of Islam. You are not one of them.

Ali Sina
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