Hoog tijd. English Defence League

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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Wo Jan 12, 2011 11:00 pm

Engelse rechtbank laat aanklacht tegen Tommy Robinson vallen
Luton – De Engelse rechtbank in Luton heeft vandaag besloten de aanklacht tegen EDL-oprichter Tommy Robinson te laten vallen. Tommy Robinson werd beschuldigd voor het aanvallen van een politieagent tijdens "Remembrance Day" op 11 November in Engeland en zou hiervoor op 12 januari zich moeten verantwoorden voor de rechtbank. Feitelijk trok Tommy alleen een jihad-vlag uit de handen van een moslim-extremist, iets was ook heel duidelijk te zien is op filmpjes die op het internet gepubliceerd zijn.

http://www.amsterdampost.nl/engelse-rechtbank-seponeert-aanklacht-tegen-tommy-robinson/
Wie in de Islam zijn hersens gebruikt, zal zijn hoofd moeten missen.

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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Vr Jan 14, 2011 10:54 pm

Reading mosque: St George's flag protest case dismissed
A man who waved a St George's flag outside an unbuilt mosque and shouted "EDL" and "England" has had the case against him thrown out.
District judge Andrew Vickers dismissed two public order charges. He said Mr Peterson had a right to free speech.
Mr Peterson, 37, from Tilehurst, said he was "over the moon".
The judge said the words were not threatening, abusive or insulting.

Police were called to the scene by two Muslim men, the court heard.
They told officers they were concerned by the protest as prayers were about to start at a nearby mosque and they believed an English Defence League (EDL) demonstration was about to take place.
Mr Peterson, of Elvaston Way, was charged with two public offences, including a "religiously aggravated" offence.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-12185105
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Ma Jan 17, 2011 2:13 pm

Tommy Robinson on Norwegian TV

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Berichtdoor silkyboxershortXL » Wo Jan 19, 2011 9:01 pm

5 februari Luton. Demonstratie van de English defence Leaque
DDL zal er bij zijn.
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Hoop is geen strategie.
WWG1WGA

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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Vr Jan 28, 2011 10:11 pm

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/to ... slim-gang/
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... eader.html
http://loganswarning.com/2011/01/27/bre ... dl-leader/
http://toliveonthewind.blogspot.com/201 ... ember.html
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/

Attack on EDL man's Luton home probed
Reports of an attack on the home of a leading English Defence League (EDL) member are being investigated by police in Bedfordshire.

Officers were called to Kevin Carroll's home in Bolingbroke Road, Luton, late on Thursday after reports an object was thrown against the window of the house.
Mr Carroll said he went to investigate and saw a man who appeared to be holding a shotgun. No shots were fired.
Officers carried out a search of the area, but no offender was found.
Police said they were trying to establish what happened and wanted to talk to anyone who saw anything suspicious.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-12305490
Interview (radio)
http://loganswarning.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Kevin-Carrol-speaking-on-BBC3-Radio.mp3
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Vr Feb 04, 2011 1:16 am

EDL in Newsnight BBC 2 febr.

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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Za Feb 05, 2011 12:34 pm

Promo film voor de EDL demo vandaag:

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Berichtdoor Ariel » Za Feb 05, 2011 12:48 pm

En wie het laatste nieuws over deze demo wil volgen kan dat hier doen.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/EDL_The_Forum/ ... 777/1/#new
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Zo Feb 06, 2011 10:09 pm

Het is allemaal kalm verlopen. De anti's waren met zo'n 300 man. Ze werden door de politie voortdurend omsingeld gehouden. Er waren redevoeringen o.a. van Elizabeth uit Oostenrijk.
Hier e.e.a.:
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/32467
While on the train news reached us that the Muslim defence league, being unable to reach the EDL decided to beat up members of the UAF instead. When I got home my husband told me that according to the TV news the MDL/UAF counter protestors had made a surge towards St George’s Square but were stopped by the police. As I was unaware of this it shows that the Police were very effective.
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Ma Feb 07, 2011 10:59 pm

In het lokale krantje is te lezen dat het allemaal wel mee viel.
http://www.bedfordshire-news.co.uk/News/Police-March-operation-went-well.htm
Police: March operation ‘went well’
En natuurlijk hebben de beroeps-agitatoren van de revolutionaire Socialist Workers Party een 'case' weten te maken. Huizen van hardwerkende arbeiders zijn aangevallen.
Er is een ruit kapot van een rood huis en de letters CDL staan op de deur.
Mr Iqbal doet zijn beklag. Het gebeurde laat in de avond. Het komt door het EDL protest.
Ook zijn buurmans huis (Christelijk met kruis!!) was aangevallen. Het resultaat daarvan wordt niet vermeld.
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=23803
Moraal van hun verhaal: de lakeien van het kapitalisme hebben ons verhinderd om de EDL weg te jagen en dan krijg je dus dit.
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Vr Feb 25, 2011 4:47 pm

Het agit-prop filmpje van de “Red Rebels” over Geert Wilders, vertoond door de BBC in Engeland, heeft de EDL in de pen doen klimmen.
http://englishdefenceleague.org/content ... 622bec4516
Mosques, Wilders, BBC and Propaganda: Why It's Not Working Any More
The film about Geert Wilders was well known in certain circles as a far left hit piece (the production company that made it goes by the name “Red Rebel” if that is some sort of clue) it was the choice of the BBC to show this film instead of making a more balanced piece themselves. The EDL has published a more detailed critique of the program here.

While some in the counter Jihad world have written that by showing this program the BBC may have breached it’s charter and the EDL certainly agrees with this, there is a positive side. The program on Geert Wilders, while trying to present him as a crazy, xenophobic, lunatic, actually showed the following:

Lees maar verder daar. Meer gedetailleerde kritiek hier:
http://englishdefenceleague.org/content ... roadcaster
For the Billionth Time... BBC Bias
Criticism of opposing points of view is essential to democracy, and the EDL welcome’s open and robust debate. However, we are shocked by the BBC’s use of an imam well-known for his sermons against Jews, Christians, women, and non-Muslims as a whole, and by its interviewing of Martin Smith, a prominent member of revolutionary socialist organizations. Neither interview carried a disclaimer stating the facts about these witnesses.
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Di Mar 08, 2011 2:30 pm

Demo in Rochdale. Hier beelden van de antifa met "Allah Hakbar' geroep.



meer bij
http://www.libertiesalliance.org/2011/03/07/edl-rochdale-demo-video-roundup/
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Vr Mar 11, 2011 10:48 pm

Over Rochdale:

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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Ma Apr 04, 2011 1:36 pm

De EDL was er weer in Blackburn op zaterdag ondanks een tegenactie van de politie. Lees meer bij:
http://englishdefenceleague.org/content.php?282-Police-Warning-To-EDL-Leadership&s=42ba790342452bf6e90bfb4e189bc6c6
    Bedfordshire Police has received anonymous information that a threat has been made against [Kevin and Tommy]. The nature of this threat is that he and his associates face being assaulted when they attend a planned English Defence League protest at Blackburn Lancashire on the 2nd of April 2011.

    Due to your lifestyle and political beliefs Bedfordshire Police has identified you as being at very high risk of coming to serious harm and our concerns are such for your safety that we have suggested the following actions to reduce the risk of further violence:

    1. That you do not attend the planned EDL protest in Blackburn on the 2nd of April 2011.
    2. If you choose to attend the protest, that you do not inform anyone of your intention to travel or the method of travel that you intend to use.
    3. If you choose to attend this protest, that you inform Bedfordshire Police of your plans and allow them to inform their colleagues in Blackburn.
    4. That you call the Police immediately if you feel under threat from anyone, using the 999 system.
    5. I must warn you that if you fail to take advantage of this advice it may put you at increased risk of harm. You have a responsibility to act in a manner that does not compromise your own safety. If you need Police assistance [contact details redacted] and we will do all we can to support you and to make you feel safe.
De Socialist Workers Party is in de wolken. Zij staan als anti-fascisten er niet meer alleen voor. Ze hebben zaterdag ook steun gekregen vanuit de moskeeten. Riepen die tot voor kort op om thuis te blijven, nu worden de gelovigen opgeroepen om mee te doen. Anti-fascisten en Moslim fascisten maken gezamenlijk front tegen xenofobie en racisme. Aan het normale repertoire van leuzen kan nu ook 'Allah Hakbar' worden toegevoegd.
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=24400
The Lancashire Council of Mosques (LCM) decided to back the event in the past week, marking a significant shift in the battle against the EDL. It is the first time that a regional body of mosques has backed a counter-protest since the racists started organising in 2009.
Under pressure from police and local councils mosques have previously advised Muslims to stay at home.
So though counter protests have met the racists, they have rarely shown the biggest united resistance possible.
That began to change in Blackburn on Saturday. As one local, Zaheer, told Socialist Worker, “We are sick of living under our own imposed curfew while racists run riot.”
A thousand people gathered in the city centre in Suddell Cross while hundreds more stayed on street corners to defend their local community.
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Zo Mei 08, 2011 4:53 pm

In de Sikh sekte is een beweging op gang gekomen, "the turban campaign".
Die willen de woordvoerder van de EDL, Guramit Singh, gaan excommuniceren en sociaal dood verklaren.
Dit groepje denkt te kunnen spreken namens alle Sikhs in Engeland.
De reactie op de aantijgingen door Guramit Singh:
http://www.libertiesalliance.org/2011/05/07/understanding-the-english-defence-league/
Understanding The English Defence League
To whom it may concern,

I’m writing with regard to the document you signed, a document issued to you by members of the turban campaign, something that slanders not just myself but also the English Defence League.

When I noticed the lies in this joint statement I thought to myself, “just ignore it”. I thought that anybody who is deluded enough to believe this nonsense is not worth wasting time on. Time trying help them realise the truth seemed just a waste of effort. Some people are just blind to truth anyway so why even bother? But when I was speaking to my grandmother the other day about this situation, she made me understand that this could be a negative way to proceed. So upon reflection, I would like to take this opportunity to apologise for my arrogance. This is me reaching out to all those people who have been hoodwinked into believing slander from the ideological opponents of the EDL.

The joint statement asks for members of mainly Sikh and Hindu organisations to denounce the English Defence League because members of the turban campaign believe we are a bunch of racists and that we are trying to divide the Asian community. They are also asked to denounce the BNP.

Spoiler! :
Well would anyone be amazed by me agreeing with denouncing the BNP?

I completely agree with that statement. But they associate the EDL with the BNP to gain support, I’d like to state now, the English Defence League denounces the British National Party! It would also be fair to say that although we do not like or agree with the BNP’s agenda, we are aware there are people who vote BNP quite simply out of sheer frustration, and it is also fair to say that there are racist idiots involved in the BNP, Its current leader was a member of the National Front and one of the founders, John Tyndal was a Neo Nazi. Why would the EDL want to be linked to the BNP?

We don’t, but our opponents want us to be!

This was their first lie, an eye-catching opener to engage any right-minded people who abhor racism. What they failed to do was to release the full details of our organisation’s mission statement, This is easily found on our website, http://englishdefenceleague.org/content.php, I would appreciate it if our ideologically opposed friends did a little more research, be honest in their reporting and understand what we are really about. As of this very moment I am making it clear to those who believe this propaganda. You have been given false information. Please open up your eyes to the truth. We are certainly not a racist organisation, we never have been and we never will be. We are open to all and I am not the only one who is testament to that fact.

The English Defence League is a non racist street movement that welcomes people from all backgrounds, any race or religion; our motto is “Black And White Unite”. This is the very cornerstone our organisation is built on.

Unfortunately, as we have seen in the past and up to this current day, certain far left movements such as the UAF (unite against freedom) and turban campaign can’t stand people standing up to real issues and real concerns. These groups like to play the racist card because they can’t debate us on any platform relating to the imposition of sharia and its clear links with Radical Islam and the hatred and intolerance towards “Kuffar”.

Groups like the NF and BNP are fundamentally opposed to what the EDL stands for. We are not a racist organisation, unlike the NF. Just because we march and hold protests, it doesn’t mean we have anything ideologically in common. They have perverted Nationalism and turned it into something that nowadays is all too commonly associated with racial supremacy. I’m pretty sure Winston Churchill honoured all those who fought for our country, Black, White, Brown, did it matter to him? Ethnicity never ever played a divisive role in our armed forces. In fact it only strengthened us more!

There have been real racists who have infiltrated our organisation. Some have come along to demos and divisional meetings without anyone knowing. There have been Nazis and members of C18 that have tried to infiltrate and disrupt our organisation. Those people have left a stigma behind, a stigma that we are still trying to get rid of. One thing is for sure though, we don’t like them and they are not welcome. We could have never ever predicted when we started this organisation that this would happen. We stated very clearly in the earliest of days that we were an Anti-Nazi, Anti-Racist movement and that we were not the BNP.

It is very hard to spot these disgraceful so-called Nationalists unless they have swastikas tattooed on their heads, or they make their feelings and thoughts public. The EDL have not only been targeted by the Far Left, the Police, the Government and some public bodies, we also get attacked from the real “far right”.

When we do find out who these racist idiots are, we do out them, and we even do it publically if we have too!

From what I have heard. the turban campaign have many a time called us Nazis to people that have co-signed the joint statement. I’d have to admit if someone from my local community came to me with a document as important as denouncing a Nazi organisation I’d jump to sign it too, but this is not the case, this is just another lie to keep us from breaking into the mainstream.

The turban campaign also called us Anti-Semites. If you look at many of our videos you will see that the Star Of David is a flag that the English Defence League fly loudly and proudly. We believe in Israel’s right to exist, and Israel’s right to defend itself. One of my closest international allies is Rabbi Shiffren. He has come along to two of our demos and given speeches: We have such a close relationship that I invited him to Nottingham to address my local division, and I can honestly say I have never seen as much unity from our two great countries and our various religions and backgrounds in my whole life:

This was the turban campaigns next lie, as you can probably guess this is getting ridiculous considering that members of the turban campaign claim to represent the whole of the Sikh community, I would never claim such a thing. I only represent those who are sincere to our cause no matter what colour creed or religion.

A Sikh who truly understands his or her religion will understand the true message of the English Defence League. Our battle against militant Islam is a battle that is also fought by Sikhs who understand the dangers, just as our Guru Gobind Singh did!

The turban campaign have also stated that we are trying to divide the Asian community, I’ve heard lies from the UAF saying that we recruit outside Gurdwaras and Temples, seducing young Sikhs and Hindus to join our organisation and cause friction with the Islamic community. This again is false. The lies are coming from somewhere, but at this point I cannot state from where and I certainly won’t jump out with any accusation to smear someone. Unlike the members of the turban campaign, our organisation would never use such strategies. We are not missionary, we don’t think to ourselves, “our numbers are looking low in one culture so let’s try to bring them in“, we are not politicians, we are proud of our diversity, our country is a multi-ethnic country, something the EDL is very proud of.

People join the EDL because of their concerns on the issues we raise, because they have taken time to see through the lies propagated against us. It’s not our fault that a large proportion of the Islamic community refuse to integrate. It’s partly the fault of Islamic scripture, that tells muslims not to. So blaming us for separating the Asian community is another lie. Islam has been here a lot longer than the English Defence League and it has caused far more division among the Asian community than the EDL ever could!

Islam, and of course Muslims who choose to follow their religion as close to its 7th century context as possible are to blame for this atmosphere and culture of resentment, hatred and intolerance. This does nothing for community cohesion at all.

The turban campaign also threatened me with going to the akal tukat to put in an application to excommunicate me from the Sikh religion.

Another instance where they state they represent the Sikh community, I responded to this atrocity HERE. Their tactics disturbed me and made me question this whole farce of an application. I first heard of this claim when sunrise radio contacted me, then a few minutes later BBC radio Asia contacted me, then a few other press contacts got in touch for a response, (as you know I am a spokesperson for the English Defence League so I have a lot of press contacts). When I asked them how they had heard of all this, they told me that members of the turban campaign had contacted them. This was the first time I had even heard of it! Now they wanted to issue me with an ultimatum, served up with a generous helping of blackmail. Why did they not immediately come to me and challenge me? This was nothing more than a publicity stunt, a vicious and untruthful way to spread vile propaganda. They brought yourselves and your co-signees in to a dark PR stunt. They should be ashamed of themselves for using the Sikh governing body in such a way, especially to make a name for themselves.

I understand in the past I have made harsh comments about Islam but the truth of the matter is Islam is harsh, I’ve studied the Quran, Hadith, Sira and Sunnah. My conclusions are simply drawn from reading Islamic scripture. I have made comments that some would call racist but that is because I’m not particularly politically correct.

I am of brown skin. I understand what racism is and I’d never inflict that heartache onto somebody else. I know it’s hard to believe, but everything that’s written in google is not gospel. My auntie googled me the other day and said to me she couldn’t believe they were talking about the same person. I have sworn on stage and in interviews (and I do regret that looking back) but sometimes harsh times take harsh action and harsh words, I think that may have been a mistake so I will address that and not do so in the future.

I’m not asking for your support but I feel that you do deserve to hear the truth. It’s very easy to get misled by trusted people in this world and that can be very upsetting, I know once the turban campaign get this letter they will reply with another load of deaf, dumb and blind excuses and that’s for them to deal with. Their ignorance is not my problem, but I can offer them a way to see the truth.

I know I’ve been 100% truthful and done right by my organisation, and by my grandmother to write this letter, if I can be of any assistance to yourselves in the future no matter what the issue please do not hesitate to contact me via my secretary at [email protected] Thank you very much for your time. I only hope that people can be brave enough to give truth a real chance.

Yours Sincerely

Guramit Singh
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Re: Hoog tijd. English Defence League

Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Za Jun 18, 2011 7:24 pm

Is de Dutch Defence League exit?
http://www.dutchdefenceleague.nl/
De Dutch Defence League houdt op met bestaan. Dank u voor de getoonde interesse.
Beste Forumleden,

Vanwege veiligheidsoverwegingen en een tekort aan mankracht is het voor ons niet langer mogelijk de activiteiten van de Dutch Defence League voort te zetten en hebben daarom besloten om per direct de DDL op te heffen.

Wij willen eenieder bedanken die het afgelopen jaar de DDL een warm hart heeft toegedragen en moedigen iedereen aan zich op zijn manier in te zetten tegen fundamenteel gedachtegoed in Nederland

Reacties kunnen tot morgenavond gericht worden aan [email protected]
Admin DDL

http://indymedia.nl/nl/2011/06/76603.shtml
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Berichtdoor Ariel » Za Jun 18, 2011 7:26 pm

Is de Dutch Defence League exit?


Enig idee waarom? Is er wat gebeurd?
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Wo Jun 22, 2011 1:18 pm

http://www.rightsidenews.com/2011061813837/life-and-science/culture-wars/the-british-ban-tommy-robinson-from-edl-activities-and-free-speech.html
The British Ban Tommy Robinson from EDL Activities and Free Speech
Ik moest even terug denken aan hoe hier ooit Janmaat de marge in werd gedrukt.
In Engeland doen ze het net zo: Legal Jihad en antifa's.
Our leader, Tommy Robinson, was charged yesterday by Lancashire police over the Blackburn demonstration and by the Bedfordshire police over the local Luton demonstration against Richard Howitt.
The Blackburn demonstration was on the 2nd of April, two and a half months ago, and the Luton protest was three weeks ago, so why are the police suddenly finding reasons to charge Tommy? We've already seen Tommy face various trumped-up charges that have been laughed out of court, and we've seen the ludicrous charge against him of assaulting a police officer as the Muslim extremists burnt poppies[...]
Last week, our PayPal and eBay accounts were mysteriously closed down at similar times after many months of use with no issues.[...]
* On Saturday, the police force at the Dewsbury demo took it upon themselves to kettle law-abiding EDL protesters for 4 hours before forcibly moving the peaceful EDL supporters on buses to far-away Leeds, rather than nearby Batley, where all the EDL transport was waiting to take people home.
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Re: Hoog tijd. English Defence League

Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Di Jun 28, 2011 4:56 pm

EDL Moves To Consolidate Its Influence With The English Working Class
The EDL was founded by a group of working class lads from Luton and following their early efforts it has become a highly influential national organisation in England. The British establishment has been running around in circles trying to define it and worrying how it will affect its own plans for the country and the world. The main loser from the rise of the EDL will of course be the British labour movement that has already alienated its own working class support in favour of those that the Labour Government imported into Britain from the Third World as its new political support base. How loyal these new voters will be to the Labour Party cause remains to be seen. In any case, the English working class will be slow to forgive the Labour Party that tried to make it irrelevant.
http://www.libertiesalliance.org/2011/06/23/edl-moves-to-consolidate-its-influence-with-the-english-working-class/
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Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Di Jun 28, 2011 7:03 pm

Nog iets over EDL activiteiten in Nottingham dat steeds meer gekoloniseerd wordt.
Pig's head left on a pole near to site of mosque
A MEMBER of the English Defence League (EDL) in Notts has pleaded guilty to being involved in an anti-Muslim "hate crime".
Christopher Payne helped a group of EDL members put a pig's head sprayed with an anti-Muslim message on a 4ft yellow pole in Collington Way, West Bridgford.
Payne appeared at Nottingham Magistrates' Court yesterday where he pleaded guilty to two charges of racially or religiously aggravated criminal damage and causing racially or religiously aggravated alarm, harassment or distress by words or writing.
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Pig-s-head-left-pole-near-site-mosque/story-12844274-detail/story.html
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Re: Hoog tijd. English Defence League

Berichtdoor silkyboxershortXL » Do Jun 30, 2011 9:33 am

Pamela Geller has a statement:
Change for the worse at the English Defence Leaque
EDL Shake-up
I was an early supporter of the EDL. I liked who they were and what they were doing. When the EDL first came on the scene, I noted their strong support of Israel: Israeli flags at their rallies, and forthright expressions of solidarity with the Jewish State in its resistance to the same relentless jihad that is advancing in Britain. Almost immediately there came the inevitable charge from the jihad-loving Left that the group was "neo-Nazi," "neofascist," "white supremacist," and more. So I started investigating. I found that they rejected the British National Party's racial orientation, and that they had members who were Sikhs, Pakistanis, gays and other minorities, and even, eventually, a Jewish division. The idea of pro-Israel neo-Nazis is a myth of the Left, and so the presence of the Jewish division was decisive. I was troubled by the photos of EDL members giving the Nazi salute, but discovered that the EDL was aware of neo-Nazi attempts at infiltration, and had a policy of expelling anyone who expressed any kind of antisemitic or neofascist sentiments. They even refused to allow people to be members of both the EDL and the BNP. So it seemed to me at the time that the EDL was a genuine anti-jihad group, strongly pro-Israel as every legitimate anti-jihad group must be, since Israel is at the front lines of the global jihad, and resolutely rejecting racism and any form of actual neofascism.

However, it has become increasingly clear that the EDL has morphed and diverged from its original course. They now have clearly been infiltrated by the worst kind of influences, something that had successfully staved off for years, and they're no longer staving it off. Roberta Moore, the leader of the Jewish Division, has broken with the EDL. Perhaps the decentralization of the group or the loose grip Tommy Robinson held on its tether is responsible for this terrible shift in the EDL's direction -- I don't know. But whatvever the case may be, the EDL has done a Charles Johnson. And they are now unrecognizable to me. I am sure regular Atlas readers have noticed that some time ago I stopped covering their events -- I was waiting to see how things would shake out. I was waiting to see if the forces of good would recapture the heart and soul of the group. Alas, it was not to be.

Now that the person whom I most trusted in the EDL, Roberta Moore, has resigned, as she was increasingly uncomfortable with the neo-fascists that had infiltrated the administration of the group, I too am withdrawing my support from the EDL. I hope that genuine anti-jihadists in Britain will also leave the EDL and work with Roberta on starting a new group that will resist definitively and firmly all attempts to divert it from its mission of fighting against jihad and for human rights.


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Re: Hoog tijd. English Defence League

Berichtdoor silkyboxershortXL » Vr Jul 01, 2011 10:28 am

An Open Letter to Pamela Geller
Posted on June 30, 2011 by Eeyore

As most readers already know, earlier today Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs posted a prominent repudiation of the English Defence League, including references to their alleged infiltration by “neo-fascists”.

A group of Counterjihad bloggers and writers has joined together to publish this open letter to Ms. Geller. Most of us are Europeans, but not all — we also have signatories from the United States, Canada, and Australia.

If you are a blogger or a writer and want to add your signature to this letter, please send your name and URL to me (unspiek [at] chromatism [dot] net), or to the proprietors of other sites where it has been posted.


Dear Ms. Geller,

We the undersigned are writing to register our astonishment and dismay at your public denunciation of the English Defence League, and in particular your reference to the “neo-fascists that had infiltrated the administration of the group”.

This is a grossly inaccurate and unfair slander against the leaders and membership of the EDL, who have never wavered in their refusal to include neo-Nazis, fascists, or adherents of any other ideology that seeks to divide people based on their ethnicity. The core mission of the EDL has always been, and remains, to stop the encroachment of sharia and Islamic fascism.

For the past two years the English Defence League has been on the front lines of the resistance to sharia and militant Islam in England. Its leaders have put their own lives in danger by doing so. They live under constant threat, not just from murderous Muslim zealots, but from their own government, which has harassed and arrested them repeatedly. Tommy Robinson, the leader of the EDL, has been arrested multiple times, and is currently facing trumped-up charges designed to put him and the EDL out of action.

To paraphrase Geert Wilders: “I was dragged to court by leftist and Islamic organizations that were bent not only on silencing me but on stifling public debate.” The EDL is being dragged into a kangaroo court of uninformed public opinion. The more people’s fears can be raised, the more quickly debate can be smothered.

In the final analysis, as Geert Wilders points out, the strength of our community depends on the freedom we feel to “enter our convictions in the open lists to win or lose”.

All communities inevitably experience conflicts based on differences of opinion. It is crucial that we approach one another’s efforts in good faith, presume the other’s efforts to be well-meaning until conclusively proven otherwise, support initiatives made by others that further our common cause, and refuse to be dragged into parsing ever more finely our differences.

Our ideal of the “perfect” can kill any merely “good enough” effort.

Your unfortunate statements were picked up and repeated by other websites and blogs, some of them quite prominent and well-respected. This has done harm to our common cause, and has driven a completely needless wedge between the American and European wings of the international Counterjihad.

To help heal the damage that has been done, we insist that you apologize in a public forum to the English Defence League.

Its leaders and members are heroes, and their organization is widely considered a beacon of hope in Europe. All Europeans who resist the Islamization of their countries look to the EDL for inspiration, and all of them stand in solidarity with it in its struggle.

We strongly request that you reconsider your deplorable words and withdraw them.

Sincerely yours,

Aeneas, ICLA, Beer n Sandwiches (England)
Gavin Boby, Law and Freedom Foundation (England)
Henrik Ræder Clausen, Europe News (Denmark and Germany)
Eeyore, Vlad Tepes (Canada)
Fjordman (Norway)
Gaia, ICLA (England)
Hans Erling Jensen, Eticha (Denmark)
Nilk, Right Wing Death Bogan (Australia)
Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff (Austria)
Paul Weston (England)
Baron Bodissey, Gates of Vienna (USA)
Tundra Tabloids, Tundra Tabloids (FIN)
I just have to post a video of who I think is a great contemporary mind speaking on the EDL. Douglass Murray


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Re: Hoog tijd. English Defence League

Berichtdoor Mahalingam » Vr Jul 01, 2011 6:46 pm

Reactie EDL:
EDL leader: "We repudiate any individual, group or writing that favors anti-Semitism, neofascism, and any race-based ideology"
The English Defence League was formed two years ago. One of the fundamental beliefs that this movement was built on was its support for Israel’s right to defend itself. In our first demonstrations, we went to Birmingham, and we flew the flag of Israel, the Star of David. In the first public speech I ever gave, I wore the Star of David in Leeds. The reason for this is because Israel is a shining star of democracy. If Israel falls, we all fall. This is what our movement has been built on for two years.

The English Defence League will not be deterred from its support for Israel and the Jewish people. Recently, in the EDL there have been internal arguments, which are nothing more than that. Every large family has its disagreements, but when push comes to shove, we all stand on the same side.

Meanwhile, some people on the fringes of this movement wish to direct it toward their own agenda. This will never happen. Israel is a beacon of democracy amid repressive Arab states. Recently some people have jumped on the EDL bandwagon and tried to use our platform to express anti-Semitic views. These statements are not in accord with the fundamental beliefs of the English Defence League. These people are not welcome, never have been welcome, and never will be welcome within the EDL. We reject all anti-Semitism. The EDL stands where it always has stood, which is side-by-side with Israel.

We repudiate any individual, group or writing that favors anti-Semitism, neofascism, and any race-based ideology. Any rogue elements within the EDL who go against our mission statement and our beliefs will be removed from the organization; we are determined to remain true to our mission. Anti-Semitism will not ever be tolerated within the EDL.

The EDL stands for freedom. It always has, it always will. We want the Jewish people and all free people to remain free forever, and we all stand together in this fight against Islamic jihad.


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Re: Hoog tijd. English Defence League

Berichtdoor Ariel » Wo Jul 06, 2011 1:49 am

Ariel schreef:
Is de Dutch Defence League exit?


Enig idee waarom? Is er wat gebeurd?



Dutch Defence League werd bedreigd
Geplaatst door Joost Niemoller op 5 juli,


De Dutch Defence League is opgeheven, zoals vandaag stond te lezen in de media. Het bericht werd gebracht door Telegraaf. en Spits! Niet vermeld stond daarbij wat de achterliggende reden was. Het ging om bedreigingen, melden we nu hier, exclusief, bij De Dagelijkse Standaard. DDS sprak met de woordvoerder, Timo, waar we eerder contact mee hadden toen de Dutch Defence League samen met o.a. de English Defence League een met veel spanningen en media aandacht omgeven demonstratie organiseerde, aanvankelijk op het Museumplein, later in een geheel door politie afgesloten straat in het Amsterdamse Westelijk Havengebied.

Timo liet per mail weten dat bedreigingen per telefoon en mail het voor hem en zijn medewerkers onmogelijk maakte verder door te gaan als Dutch Defence League.

Over de bedreigingen liet Timo het volgende weten:

De bedreigingen die per mail hebben plaatsgevonden heb ik al gedelete. Ik was er destijds niet zo van onder de indruk dus heb ze gelijk in de prullenmand gegooid. De bedreigingen per telefoon heb ik destijds doorgegeven aan een politiefunctionaris waar ik regelmatig mee in gesprek was; of ze er wat mee gedaan hebben blijft de vraag. Voor de rest waren er ook bedreigingen vanuit de criminele hoek: Steve Brown, de pillencrimineel, riep destijds op ons te grazen te nemen. Ik heb ook van de politie Amsterdam het advies gehad mezelf niet meer in Amsterdam te laten zien, het zou niet goed zijn voor mijn lijf en gezondheid. De pogingen tot fysiek geweld in Amsterdam waren daar en ook kregen we tijdens de laatste demonstratie in Stuttgart stenen, kapotte flessen, stokken, poep en eieren naar ons toegegooid. Een vrouw die met ons meeging, in rolstoel, moest bovendien onder politiebegeleiding het terrein verlaten, ook zij werd aangevallen.

De spanningen namen toe nadat de organisatie in de media werd omschreven als extreem-rechts en gewelddadig. Voor een in augustus geplande anti islam demonstratie in Rotterdam kon de veiligheid niet meer gegarandeerd worden en dat was de reden de stekker er maar uit te trekken. In een andere vorm wil Timo zijn activiteiten wel voortzetten.

Timo over de reden om te stoppen met de Dutch Defence League:

-Ten eerste de veiligheid van betrokken personen. Ik ben zelf regelmatig telefonisch en per mail bedreigd. Mijn foto staat op zowel Duitse als Nederlandse antifa sites met het verzoek mij eens flink aan te pakken. Ook bij demonstraties neemt het geweld fysieke vormen aan. Ik heb/had een vriendin met een kind ( relatie staat even op losse schroeven) en hoewel ik persoonlijk niet bang ben vrees ik toch voor hun veiligheid. En ook die van onze overige medewerkers.

-Door de main stream media zijn we destijds als gewelddadig en extreem-rechts neergezet voor het grote publiek. Dit beeld is bij het merendeel van de bevolking blijven hangen. Het tegendeel is natuurlijk waar; wij zijn helemaal niet extreem rechts en het geweld komt ook in bijna alle gevallen van de andere kant. Ik, en ook de naaste medewerkers, zijn goede mensen zonder enige vooroordelen mbt ras uiterlijk of geloof. Helaas is de main stream heel erg machtig ..

-Wij zouden in augustus een demonstratie organiseren met een hoop bekende gasten uit zowel het binnen en buitenland: Elisabeth Wolff, Rabbi Shifren, Tom Trento, Tommy Robinson, Pascal Hilout, Baron Bodissy etc etc. Eigenlijk zouden van iedere organisatie wereldwijd enkele afgevaardigden komen. Omdat wij als ddl, zoals eerder vermeld, kampen met een negatief imago is ons ledenbestand niet toereikend om deze mensen veilig door Rotterdam te kunnen loodsen. Zeker niet als de msm er weer opduikt als destijds in Amsterdam.

-Ook zijn er enige onderzoeksjournalisten op zoek naar ons. Ze zijn op de hoogte van de demonstraties in Amsterdam, Luton, Parijs, Stuttgart en Berlijn. Ik heb bij deze demonstraties een "grote" rol gespeeld. Zou ik doorgaan dan zou ik 100% zeker door de mainstream aan de schandpaal genageld worden. Ik ben maar gewoon een jongen van de straat, tegen zo'n machtig apparaat kan ik helaas niet op. Nu had ik nog de keuze ons terug te trekken en deels in de anonimiteit te treden. Deze laatste is dus een persoonlijke overweging geweest.

Wij hebben het geprobeerd, maar dankzij de media hebben wij een hoop vijanden (moslims, antifa, aivd, media, hooligans en zelfs een groot deel van de PVV-aanhangers). Hebben wij gefaald dan ? Deels wel, deels niet. Persoonlijk ben ik toch wel tevreden op de manier hoe wij hebben bijgedragen aan het feit dat mensen en organisaties her en der door Europa en Amerika nu gezamenlijk de strijdbijl oppakken. Hoe nu verder? Op korte termijn zullen een groep ingewijden van ons een kleine meeting houden om te kijken hoe we eventueel activiteiten door kunnen laten gaan: denk aan bv een anonieme blog of kleine groepjes die aanwezig zullen zijn bij demonstraties.

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Re: Hoog tijd. English Defence League

Berichtdoor Pilgrim » Wo Jul 06, 2011 12:51 pm

Ik krijg steeds meer het idee dat deze landverraders (AFA) het grootste probleem zijn! :mad: Als ze er niet waren en als iedereen echt doordrongen was van het gevaar van de groeiende invloed van de Islam zou de islamisering mijns inziens gemakkelijk de kop ingedrukt kunnen worden. We zullen eerst met deze linxen af moeten rekenen voordat we met de Islam af kunnen rekenen. :x
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