Laat ze maar zien Nadia

Is Mohammed het zegel der profeten? Of gewoon één der velen? Debatteer over zijn leven, visies, psychologie, sucessen en mislukkingen. Kun je hem met Jezus vergelijken?
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Laat ze maar zien Nadia

Berichtdoor Amazigh » Di Mei 15, 2007 7:58 pm

Ga je gang zal ik maar zeggen :)........................
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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 7:59 pm

ajax broeder, heb je niks nuttigs te doen? :shock:

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Michel schreef:ajax broeder, heb je niks nuttigs te doen? :shock:


Ik w8 gewoon tot ze wat laat zien want heb tot nu toe niets gezien
Hoezo FKAS
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ajax schreef:
Michel schreef:ajax broeder, heb je niks nuttigs te doen? :shock:


Ik w8 gewoon tot ze wat laat zien want heb tot nu toe niets gezien :d

Is toch logisch bij zo'n hardhoofd-forum als ffi.

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Berichtdoor BFA » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:04 pm

Wat kan jelaten zien aan liegende ogen?
Het is een parasitaire soort die leeft op de intelligentie van anderen en deze dan tegen hun gebruikt;

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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:07 pm

BFA schreef:Wat kan jelaten zien aan liegende ogen?

Wat kun je vertellen aan liegende tongen?

Ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd wat het opleidingsniveau is van de meesten hier en uit welk milieu en vriendenkring ze komen.

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Berichtdoor fucmoh » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:09 pm

Michel schreef:
BFA schreef:Wat kan jelaten zien aan liegende ogen?

Wat kun je vertellen aan liegende tongen?

Ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd wat het opleidingsniveau is van de meesten hier en uit welk mileu en vriendenkring ze komen.


Maakt dat wat uit dan, aangezien Mohammed niet kon lezen en schrijven?

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Berichtdoor BFA » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:15 pm

Wat kun je vertellen aan liegende tongen?


Wat je maar wil.

Of je gehoord wordt is een zaak van credibiliteit.
Een gespleten persoonlijkheid spreekt gespleten, is het niet zo, Michel/Serdar
Het is een parasitaire soort die leeft op de intelligentie van anderen en deze dan tegen hun gebruikt;

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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:23 pm

fucmoh schreef:
Michel schreef:
BFA schreef:Wat kan jelaten zien aan liegende ogen?

Wat kun je vertellen aan liegende tongen?

Ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd wat het opleidingsniveau is van de meesten hier en uit welk mileu en vriendenkring ze komen.


Maakt dat wat uit dan, aangezien Mohammed niet kon lezen en schrijven?

Was uit nieuwsgierigheid. Niet meer.
Krijg ik nog een antwoord?

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Berichtdoor Amazigh » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:24 pm

Laat is zien joh het is boek vol haat toch?
Is toch niet zo moelijk om 1 vers te laten zien die niet uit context gehaald is
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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:26 pm

ajax schreef:Laat is zien joh het is boek vol haat toch?
Is toch niet zo moelijk om 1 vers te laten zien die niet uit context gehaald is

Heb het zovaak uitgelegd aan die hardhoofden, maar ze willen blijven vasthouden aan wat hun is aangeschoteld uit anti-Islam bronnen.
Wordt er echt moe van zulke debielen, serieus.

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Berichtdoor fucmoh » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:38 pm

ajax schreef:Laat is zien joh het is boek vol haat toch?
Is toch niet zo moelijk om 1 vers te laten zien die niet uit context gehaald is


Niet alleen dat boek, maar Mohammeds voorbeeld was er zelfs volledig naar.

ri IX:69 "Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us."
Tabari VIII:141 "The battle cry of the Companions of the Messenger of Allah that night was: ‘Kill! Kill! Kill!'"

Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet had their men killed, their woman and children taken captive."

Ishaq:489 "Do the bastards think that we are not their equal in fighting? We are men who think that there is no shame in killing."

Qur'an 2:191 "And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah
polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter."

Qur'an 33:60 "Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy - a fierce slaughter - murdered, a horrible murdering."

Bukhari:V4B52N270 "Allah's Messenger said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.' Maslama got up saying, ‘Would you like me to kill him?' The Prophet proclaimed, ‘Yes.' Maslama said, ‘Then allow me to lie so that I will be able to deceive him.' Muhammad said, ‘You may do so.'"

Ishaq:368 "Ka'b's body was left prostrate [humbled in submission]. After his fall, all of the Nadir Jews were brought low. Sword in hand we cut him down. By Muhammad's order we were sent secretly by night. Brother killing brother. We lured him to his death with guile [cunning or deviousness]. Traveling by night, bold as lions, we went into his home. We made him taste death with our deadly swords. We sought victory for the religion of the Prophet."

Tabari VII:97
Ishaq:368 "We carried Ka'b's head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah's enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf's head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah's Cause. Our attack upon Allah's enemy cast terror among the Jews, and there was no Jew in Medina who did not fear for his life.'"

Tabari VII:97 "The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill any Jew who falls under your power.'"
Ishaq:369 "Thereupon Mas'ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim's brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.' Mas'ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.' Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!' And he accepted Islam."

Bukhari:V1B1N6 "Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."

Ishaq: 676 "‘You obey a stranger who encourages you to murder for booty. You are greedy men. Is there no honor among you?' Upon hearing those lines Muhammad said, ‘Will no one rid me of this woman?' Umayr, a zealous Muslim, decided to execute the Prophet's wishes. That very night he crept into the writer's home while she lay sleeping surrounded by her young children. There was one at her breast. Umayr removed the suckling babe and then plunged his sword into the poet. The next morning in the mosque, Muhammad, who was aware of the assassination, said, ‘You have helped Allah and His Apostle.' Umayr said. ‘She had five sons; should I feel guilty?' ‘No,' the Prophet answered. ‘Killing her was as meaningless as two goats butting heads.'"

Bukhari:V1B11N626 "The Prophet said, ‘No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr. If they knew the reward they would come to (the mosque) even if they had to crawl. I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.'"

Tabari VIII:17
Ishaq:550 "Muhammad ordered that certain men should be assassinated even if they were found behind the curtains of the Ka'aba. Among them was Abdallah bin Sa'd [the Qur'an's one and only scribe]. The reason that Allah's Messenger ordered that he should be slain was because he had become a Muslim and used to write down Qur'an Revelation. Then he apostatized [rejected Islam]."

Tabari VIII:179 "Abdallah bin Sa'd fled to Uthman, his brother, who after hiding him, finally surrendered him to the Prophet. Uthman asked for clemency. Muhammad did not respond, remaining silent for a long time. Muhammad explained, ‘By Allah, I kept silent so that one of you might go up to him and cut off his head!' One of the Ansar said, ‘Why didn't you give me a sign?' Allah's Apostle replied, ‘A prophet does not kill by pointing.'"

Tabari VIII:179
Ishaq:550 "Among those who Muhammad ordered killed was Abdallah bin Khatal. The Messenger ordered him to be slain because while he was a Muslim, Muhammad had sent him to collect the zakat tax with an Ansar and a slave of his.... His girls used to sing a satire about Muhammad so the Prophet ordered that they should be killed along with Abdullah. He was killed by Sa'id and Abu Barzah. The two shared in his blood. One of the singing girls was killed quickly but the other fled. So Umar caused his horse to trample the one who fled, killing her."

Ishaq:551 "Another victim was Huwayrith. He used to insult Muhammad in Mecca. Huwayrith was put to death by Ali. The Messenger ordered Miqyas' assassination only because he had killed an Ansar who had killed his brother by mistake and then became a renegade by rejecting Islam."

Tabari VIII:180 "Also among those eliminated were Ikrimah bin Abu Jahl and Sarah, a slave of one of Abd Muttalib's sons. She taunted Muhammad while he was in Mecca."

Tabari VIII:181 "The Messenger ordered six men and four women to be assassinated. One of these women was Hind, who swore allegiance and became a Muslim."

Bukhari:V4B52N281 "They took Khubaib to Mecca after the battle of Badr. He had killed Harith, a Meccan nobleman. The Quraysh gathered to kill him in retribution.... Khubaib wanted to offer two Rakat (prayers). They allowed this and he said, ‘O Allah, kill them all with no exception.' He then recited the poetic verse: ‘I'm being martyred as a Muslim. I do not mind how I am killed in Allah's Cause. For my killing is for Allah's Sake. If Allah wishes, He will bless the amputated parts of my torn body.' Then the son of Harith [the man Khubaib had murdered] killed him."

Ishaq:597 "When the Apostle returned to Medina after his raid on Ta'if, word spread that he had killed some of the men who had satirized and insulted him. The poets who were left spread in all directions."
Tabari IX:76 "Malik has reported to me that you were the first from Himyar to embrace Islam and that you have killed infidels, so rejoice at your good fortune."

Tabari IX:121 "When it was feasible for me, I struck him with my sword and killed him. Then I departed, leaving his women to throw themselves at him. When I returned to the Prophet, he asked, ‘Is your mission accomplished?' ‘Yes. I have killed him.'"
Ishaq:308

Tabari VII:65 "When the Apostle was in Safra, Nadr was assassinated. When Muhammad reached Irq al-Zabyah he killed Uqbah. When the Prophet ordered him to be killed, Uqbah said, ‘Who will look after my children, Muhammad?' "Hellfire,' the Apostle replied, and he was killed."

Tabari VII:85 "Muhammad killed many Quraysh polytheists at Badr."

Tabari VII:99 "In this year, the killing of Abu Rafi the Jew took place. The Messenger sent some Ansar under the command of Abd Allah and Abd Allah against the Jew. Abu Rafi used to injure and wrong the Prophet.... Abd Allah said to the others, ‘Stay where you are, and I will go and ingratiate myself with the doorkeeper to gain entrance.'"

Tabari VII:100 "Every time I opened a door, I shut it behind me from the inside, saying to myself, ‘If they become aware, they will not have time to stop me from killing him.' When I reached Rafi, he was in a dark room with his family. As I did not know where he was in the room, I said, ‘O Abu Rafi.' When he replied, I proceeded toward the voice and gave him a blow with my sword. He shouted and I came back, pretending to be a helper. I said, ‘O Abu,' changing the tone of my voice. He asked me, ‘I don't know who came to strike me with his sword.' Then I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone. I hit him again and covered him with wounds, but I could not kill him, so I thrust the point of my sword into his stomach until it came out through his back. At that, I knew that I had killed him [in front of his wife and children]. I came out, filled with puzzlement, and went towards a ladder in order to get down but I fell into a moonlit night and sprained my foot. I bound it with my turban and moved on. I came to my companions and said, ‘By Allah, I will not leave till I hear the wailing of their women.' So, I did not move till I heard them crying for the Jewish merchant. I said, ‘Deliverance! Allah has killed Abu Rafi.' I got up, feeling no ailment, and proceeded till we came upon the Prophet and informed him."

Tabari VII:101 "The Khazraj asked the Prophet for permission to kill Sallam Huqayq, who was in Khaybar. He granted this."

Ishaq:482 "One of the favors which Allah conferred upon his Prophet was that these two tribes of the Ansar, the Aws and the Khazraj, used to vie with one another like stallions to carry out the will of Muhammad. The Aws did not do anything which benefited him without the Khazraj saying, ‘By Allah they will not gain superiority over us in Islam in the eyes of the Messenger by doing this.' And they would not cease until they had done something similar. Thus when the Aws killed Ka'b Ashraf on account of his hostility to Muhammad, the Khazraj conferred to find a man comparable to Ka'b in hostility and called to mind Sallam Huqayq in Khaybar. They asked the Prophet for permission to kill him, and it was granted."

Tabari VII:101
Ishaq:483 "Sallam's wife came out and we told her that we were Arabs in search of supplies. When we entered, we bolted the door on her so she gave a shout to warn him of our presence. We rushed upon him with our swords as he lay in his bed. He took his pillow and tried to fend us off. Abd Allah thrust his sword into his stomach and transfixed him while he was shouting, ‘Enough! Enough!' At once we went out but Abd Allah had bad eyesight, and he fell off the stairway, bruising his leg or arm. ‘How shall we know that the enemy of Allah is dead?' one of us asked. ‘I will go and look,' one replied. He set off and mingled with the people. He said, ‘I found him with the men of the Jews, and with his wife, who had a lamp in her hand, peering into his face. She said, ‘By the God of the Jews, he is dead.' I never heard any more pleasing words than these. We went to the Messenger of Allah and told him that we had killed the enemy of Allah. We disagreed in his presence about the killing of Sallam, each of us claiming to have done it. The Prophet said, ‘Bring me your swords.' We did and he looked at them. He said, ‘This sword of Abd Allah killed him. I can see the marks left by bones on it.'"

Ishaq:483 "Allah, what a fine band you have, one willing to kill Sallam and Ashraf! We went with sharp swords, like fighting lions. We came upon their homes and made them drink death with our swift-slaying swords. Looking for the victory of our Prophet's religion, we ignored every risk."

Tabari VII:112
Ishaq:372 "When a blind Jew became aware of the presence of the Messenger and the Muslims he rose and threw dust in their faces, saying, ‘Even if you are a prophet, I will not allow you into my garden!' I was told that he took a handful of dirt and said, ‘If only I knew that I would not hit anyone else, Muhammad, I would throw it in your face.' Sa'd rushed in and hit him on the head with his bow and split the Jew's head open."

Ishaq:403 "Allah killed twenty-two polytheists at Uhud."

Tabari VII:147 "Amr was sent by Muhammad to kill Abu Sufyan [the Quraysh leader and merchant]. The Prophet said, ‘Go to Abu Sufyan and kill him.' ...When I entered Mecca I had a dagger ready to slay anybody who laid hold of me. My Ansar companion asked, ‘Should we start by circumambulating the Ka'aba seven times and praying two rak'ahs?' I said, ‘I know the Meccans better than you do.' But he kept pestering me until in the end we went to the Ka'aba, circumambulated it seven times, and prayed."

Tabari VII:148 "One of the Meccans recognized me and shouted, ‘That is Amr!' They rushed after us, saying, ‘By Allah, Amr has not come here for any good purpose! He has come for some evil reason.' Amr had been a cutthroat and a desperado before accepting Islam."
Tabari VII:148 "Amr said, ‘Let's wait here until the cry has died down. They are sure to hunt for us tonight and tomorrow. I was still in the cave when Uthman bin Malik came riding proudly on his horse. He reached the entrance to our cave and I said to my Ansar companion, ‘If he sees us, he will tell everyone in Mecca.' So I went out and stabbed him with my dagger. He gave a shout and the Meccans came to him while I went back to my hiding place. Finding him at the point of death, they said, ‘By Allah we knew that Amr came for no good purpose.' The death of their companion impeded their search for us, for they carried him away."

Tabari VII:149 "I went into a cave with my bow and arrows. While I was in it, a one-eyed man from the Banu Bakr came in driving some sheep. He said, ‘Who's there?' I said [lied], ‘I'm a Banu Bakr.' ‘So am I.' Then he laid down next to me, and raised his voice in song: ‘I will not believe in the faith of the Muslims.' I said, ‘You will soon see!' Before long the Bedouin went to sleep and started snoring. So I killed him in the most dreadful way that anybody has ever killed. I leant over him, struck the end of my bow into his good eye, and thrust it down until it came out the back of his neck. After that I rushed out like a wild beast and took flight. I came to the village of Naqi and recognized two Meccan spies. I called for them to surrender. They said no so I shot and arrow and killed one, and then I tied the other up and took him to Muhammad."

Tabari VII:150 "I had tied my prisoner's thumbs together with my bowstring. The Messenger of Allah looked at him and laughed so that his back teeth could be seen. Then he questioned me and I told him what had happened. ‘Well done!' he said, and prayed for me to be blessed."

Ishaq:434 "Amr and an Ansari waited until they were asleep. Then Amr killed them, thinking that he had taken vengeance for the Muslims who had been slain. When he came to the Messenger, he told him what had happened. The Prophet said, ‘You have killed men for whom I shall have to pay blood-money.'"

Tabari VIII:22 "Hassan was with the women and children. A Jew passed by and began to walk around his settlement. There was no one to protect them while the Apostle and his Companions were at the Meccans' throats. So I said: ‘Hassan, this Jew is walking around. I fear he will point out our weakness while the Muslims are too busy to attend to us. So go down to him and kill him."

Tabari VIII:22
Ishaq:458 "‘Allah forgive you, daughter of Abd al-Muttalib,' Hassan said. ‘You know that I am not the man to do it.' When he said that to me I saw that nothing could be expected from him. I girded myself, took a club, and, having gone down from the fortress to the man, I struck him with the club until I killed him. When I had finished with him, I returned to the fortress and said, ‘Hassan, go down to him and strip him - only his being a man kept me from taking his clothes.' Hassan replied, ‘I have no need for his spoils.'"

Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Tabari VIII:40 "The Messenger commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Tabari VIII:90 "Abu Basir went out with his companions. When they stopped to rest he asked one of them, ‘Is this sword of yours sharp?' ‘Yes,' he replied. ‘May I look at it?' Basir asked. ‘If you wish.' Basir unsheathed the sword, attacked the man, and killed him. The other Muslim ran back to the Messenger, saying, ‘Your Companion has killed my friend.' While the man was still there, Abu Basir appeared girded with the sword. He halted before Muhammad and said, ‘Messenger, your obligation has been discharged.

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Berichtdoor fucmoh » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:40 pm

, lying, and evil people."
Qur'an 33:26 "Allah made the Jews leave their homes by terrorizing them so that you killed some and made many captive. And He made you inherit their lands, their homes, and their wealth. He gave you a country you had not traversed before."
Ishaq:250 "The bestial transformation occurred when Allah turned Jews into apes, despised."
Qur'an 59:14 "The Jews are devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so they will end up in Hell."
Ishaq:254
Qur'an 2:96 "We will not remove a Jew from the punishment. They know the shameful thing that awaits them."
Qur'an 4:55 "Sufficient for the Jew is the Flaming Fire!"
Qur'an 88:1 "Has the narration reached you of the overwhelming (calamity)? Some faces (all disbelievers, Jews and Christians) that Day, will be humiliated, downcast, scorched by the burning fire, while they are made to drink from a boiling hot spring."
Tabari VIII:116 "After his return from Hudaybiyah, Allah's Messenger marched against Khaybar. He halted with his army in a valley between the people of Khaybar and the Ghatafan tribe to prevent the latter from assisting the Jews."
Ishaq:264 "A notable Jew spoke to the Apostle, twisting his tongue. He attacked Islam and reviled it, so Allah sent down, ‘Allah knows best about your enemies. Some of the Jews change words from their contexts and say: "We hear and disobey," twisting their tongues and attacking the religion so Allah cursed them.'"
Tabari VIII:121 "Ali struck the Jew with a swift blow that split his helmet, neck protector, and head, landing in his rear teeth. And the Muslims entered the city. Muhammad conquered the [Jewish] neighborhood. Safiyah was brought to him, and another woman with her. Bilal led them past some of the Jews we had slain including the woman's dead husband. When she saw them, the woman with Safiyah cried out, slapped her face, and poured dust on her head. When Allah's Prophet saw her, he said, ‘Take this she-devil away from me!'"
Bukhari:V4B53N380 "Umar expelled all the Jews and Christians from Arabia. Allah's Apostle after conquering Khaybar thought of expelling the Jews from the land which, after he conquered it, belonged to Allah, Allah's Apostle and the Muslims. But the Jews requested Allah's Apostle to leave them there on the condition that they would do the labor and get half of the fruits (the land would yield). Allah's Apostle said, ‘We shall keep you on these terms as long as we wish.' Thus they stayed till the time of Umar's Caliphate when he expelled them."
Tabari VIII:130 "The Messenger said during his final illness, ‘Two religions cannot coexist in the Arabian Peninsula.' Umar investigated the matter, then sent to the Jews, saying: ‘Allah has given permission for you to be expelled; for I have received word that the Prophet said that two religions cannot coexist in Arabia."
Ishaq:517 "Khaybar was stormed by the Apostle's squadron, fully armed, powerful, and strong. It brought certain humiliation with Muslim men in its midst. We attacked and they met their doom. Muhammad conquered the Jews in fighting that day as they opened their eyes to our dust."
Ishaq:524 "We cannot accept the oaths of Jews. Their infidelity is so great they swear falsely."
Qur'an 59:14 "They [Jews] will not fight against you save in fortified townships. Their hostility and hatred amongst themselves is strong: you would think they were united, but their hearts they are divided. That is because these [Jews] are a people devoid of sense."
Ishaq:245 "Do you love Jews and their religion, you liver-hearted ass, and not Muhammad? Their religion will never march with ours.... Jews make false professions about Islam. So Allah sent down: ‘Satan wishes to lead them astray."
Ishaq:248 "Allah increases their sickness. A tormented doom awaits the Jews. Allah said, ‘They are mischief makers. They are fools. The Jews deny the truth and contradict what the Apostle has brought. I will mock them and let them continue to wander blindly.'"
Tabari VII:158 "The Messenger of Allah besieged the Nadir Jews for fifteen days. In the end they made peace with him on the condition that the Prophet would not shed their blood and that their property and possessions would be his."
Qur'an 5:13 "But because of their breach of their covenant We cursed the Jews, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places [the illiterate prophet pronounced] and forget and abandon a good part of the message that was sent them. Nor will you cease to find deceit in them. And because of their breaking their covenant We have cursed them. They altered words from their context and they neglected a portion of the message they were reminded of."
Qur'an 5:41 "Or it be among the Jews, men who will listen to any lie. They change the context of the words from their (right) times and places.... For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment.""
Qur'an 5:42 "They are fond of listening to falsehood, of devouring anything forbidden; they are greedy for illicit gain!"
Qur'an 5:44 "It was We who revealed the Torah. By its standard the prophets judged the Jews, and the prophets bowed (in Islam) to Allah's will, surrendering. For the rabbis and priests: to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's Scripture Book; they were witnesses of it. Therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My revelations for a miserable price."
Qur'an 5:64 "The Jews say: ‘Allah's hands are fettered.' Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the blasphemy they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched, giving [Muslims Jewish booty] as He pleases. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Doom. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah does extinguish it. But they strive to do mischief on earth."
Qur'an 98:1 "Those among the People of the Book, who disbelieve and are idolaters, would never have been freed from their false religion if the Clear Proofs had not come to them. An Apostle of Allah came reading out of hallowed pages.... They were commanded to serve Allah exclusively, fulfilling their devotional obligations, and paying the zakat. Surely the unbelievers and idolaters from the People of the Book will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures."
Qur'an 5:78 "Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled."
Qur'an 5:80 "You see many of them allying themselves with the unbelieving infidels. Vile indeed are their souls. Allah's wrath is on them, and in torment will they abide."
Qur'an 5:81 "If only they had believed in Allah, in the Prophet, and in what had been revealed to him."
Qur'an 5:82 "You will find the Jews and disbelievers [defined as Christians in 5:73] the most vehement in hatred for the Muslims."
Ishaq:262 "Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur'an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse."
Qur'an 2:59 "We sent a plague upon the Jews from heaven, for their evil-doing."
Bukhari:V4B56N679 "Allah's Apostle said, ‘Plague is a means of torture sent on the Israelis.'"
Bukhari:V2B23N457 "The Prophet went out after sunset and heard a dreadful voice. He said, ‘The Jews are being punished in their graves.'"
Qur'an 17:7 "We shall rouse Our (Muslim) slaves to shame and ravage you (Jews), disfiguring your faces. They will enter the Temple as before and destroy, laying to waste all that they conquer.

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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 8:55 pm

answering-Islam toch?

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Berichtdoor Amazigh » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:06 pm

Wat een onoverzichtelijke boel bij elkaar geschrapt door answering-islam clowns maar kun je het effe vertalen athlans je 2e post over de Koran en trouwens ik vroeg niet uit uit context halen ik wacht nog......................
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Berichtdoor fucmoh » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:08 pm

Michel schreef:answering-Islam toch?


Koran en de hadiths.

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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:12 pm

fucmoh schreef:
Michel schreef:answering-Islam toch?


Koran en de hadiths.

Ik bedoelde de website waarvan jij het gekopieerd en geplakt hebt.
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Berichtdoor fucmoh » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:12 pm

ajax schreef:Wat een onoverzichtelijke boel bij elkaar geschrapt door answering-islam clowns maar kun je het effe vertalen athlans je 2e post over de Koran en trouwens ik vroeg niet uit uit context halen ik wacht nog......................


Wat jij onoverzichtelijk noemt is nog overzichtelijker dan die hele koran van jou. En de koran valt helemaal niet uit de context te halen. De koran bevat helemaal geen context. De context is Mohammeds voorbeeld, die moordde, plunderde en verkrachtte.

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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:14 pm

fucmoh schreef:
ajax schreef:Wat een onoverzichtelijke boel bij elkaar geschrapt door answering-islam clowns maar kun je het effe vertalen athlans je 2e post over de Koran en trouwens ik vroeg niet uit uit context halen ik wacht nog......................


Wat jij onoverzichtelijk noemt is nog overzichtelijker dan die hele koran van jou. En de koran valt helemaal niet uit de context te halen. De koran bevat helemaal geen context. De context is Mohammeds voorbeeld, die moordde, plunderde en verkrachtte.

Het was dus duidelijk wel answering-islam... :razz:


PS: denk aan je hart, niet te zwaar belasten.
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Berichtdoor fucmoh » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:15 pm

Michel schreef:
fucmoh schreef:
Michel schreef:answering-Islam toch?


Koran en de hadiths.

Ik bedoelde de website waarvan jij het gekopieerd en geplakt hebt.



http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Qu ... ture.Islam

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of ... Past.Islam

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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:17 pm

fucmoh schreef:
Michel schreef:
fucmoh schreef:
Michel schreef:answering-Islam toch?


Koran en de hadiths.

Ik bedoelde de website waarvan jij het gekopieerd en geplakt hebt.



http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Qu ... ture.Islam

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of ... Past.Islam

:razz:

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Berichtdoor fucmoh » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:19 pm

Michel schreef:
fucmoh schreef:
ajax schreef:Wat een onoverzichtelijke boel bij elkaar geschrapt door answering-islam clowns maar kun je het effe vertalen athlans je 2e post over de Koran en trouwens ik vroeg niet uit uit context halen ik wacht nog......................


Wat jij onoverzichtelijk noemt is nog overzichtelijker dan die hele koran van jou. En de koran valt helemaal niet uit de context te halen. De koran bevat helemaal geen context. De context is Mohammeds voorbeeld, die moordde, plunderde en verkrachtte.

Het was dus duidelijk wel answering-islam... :razz:


PS: denk aan je hart, niet te zwaar belasten.


Het hele internet zit vol met sites die Mohammeds misdaden onder de loep nemen. Gelukkig maar.

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Berichtdoor Serdar » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:21 pm

fucmoh schreef:
Michel schreef:
fucmoh schreef:
ajax schreef:Wat een onoverzichtelijke boel bij elkaar geschrapt door answering-islam clowns maar kun je het effe vertalen athlans je 2e post over de Koran en trouwens ik vroeg niet uit uit context halen ik wacht nog......................


Wat jij onoverzichtelijk noemt is nog overzichtelijker dan die hele koran van jou. En de koran valt helemaal niet uit de context te halen. De koran bevat helemaal geen context. De context is Mohammeds voorbeeld, die moordde, plunderde en verkrachtte.

Het was dus duidelijk wel answering-islam... :razz:


PS: denk aan je hart, niet te zwaar belasten.


Het hele internet zit vol met sites die Mohammeds misdaden onder de loep nemen. Gelukkig maar.

Ja anti-islam sites met scala aan leugens met teksten die uit hun verband of historisch/sociaal context zijn gerukt...

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Berichtdoor fucmoh » Di Mei 15, 2007 9:23 pm

Michel schreef:
fucmoh schreef:
Michel schreef:
fucmoh schreef:
ajax schreef:Wat een onoverzichtelijke boel bij elkaar geschrapt door answering-islam clowns maar kun je het effe vertalen athlans je 2e post over de Koran en trouwens ik vroeg niet uit uit context halen ik wacht nog......................


Wat jij onoverzichtelijk noemt is nog overzichtelijker dan die hele koran van jou. En de koran valt helemaal niet uit de context te halen. De koran bevat helemaal geen context. De context is Mohammeds voorbeeld, die moordde, plunderde en verkrachtte.

Het was dus duidelijk wel answering-islam... :razz:


PS: denk aan je hart, niet te zwaar belasten.


Het hele internet zit vol met sites die Mohammeds misdaden onder de loep nemen. Gelukkig maar.

Ja anti-islam sites met scala aan leugens met teksten die uit hun verband of historisch/sociaal context zijn gerukt...
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